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	<title>Comments on: Asian in a Black and White World &#8211; Rant #001</title>
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		<title>By: rjschwarz</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-10197</link>
		<dc:creator>rjschwarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there should be a way and if mattel can&#039;t find it perhaps someone should go to Dragon or another company with plans to move in on Barbie&#039;s turf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there should be a way and if mattel can&#8217;t find it perhaps someone should go to Dragon or another company with plans to move in on Barbie&#8217;s turf.</p>
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		<title>By: jedifreac</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-10188</link>
		<dc:creator>jedifreac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on, there is a way to market to Asian Americans without losing money.  You really don&#039;t think that a South Asian or East Asian Barbie doctor wouldn&#039;t sell well among Asian American parents and fans, when 1 out of 4 doctors are Asian American?  They can release the doll in select markets in the United States and all over Asia, they will make money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, there is a way to market to Asian Americans without losing money.  You really don&#8217;t think that a South Asian or East Asian Barbie doctor wouldn&#8217;t sell well among Asian American parents and fans, when 1 out of 4 doctors are Asian American?  They can release the doll in select markets in the United States and all over Asia, they will make money.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-9858</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would... if I have spare time... will you give me spare time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would&#8230; if I have spare time&#8230; will you give me spare time?</p>
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		<title>By: rjschwarz</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-9833</link>
		<dc:creator>rjschwarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really think there should be more Asian dolls you should draw up some designs (or find someone to help you) and submit the designs to one of the doll maker with a proposal. There might be a lot of money to be made if there is a market segment that hasn&#039;t been exploited.

Asking a company to lose money to service a market that doesn&#039;t buy their product is naive. Companies have stockholders. Stockholders these days usually means a bank of stock held by a management fun on behalf of retirement funds (401K and stuff) rather than stuffy rich folk you&#039;re talking retired folks. They can&#039;t take losses, not even for the best of reasons, and will ensure the executive that takes a loss like that is fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really think there should be more Asian dolls you should draw up some designs (or find someone to help you) and submit the designs to one of the doll maker with a proposal. There might be a lot of money to be made if there is a market segment that hasn&#8217;t been exploited.</p>
<p>Asking a company to lose money to service a market that doesn&#8217;t buy their product is naive. Companies have stockholders. Stockholders these days usually means a bank of stock held by a management fun on behalf of retirement funds (401K and stuff) rather than stuffy rich folk you&#8217;re talking retired folks. They can&#8217;t take losses, not even for the best of reasons, and will ensure the executive that takes a loss like that is fired.</p>
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		<title>By: D7ana</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>D7ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right about the &quot;Us&quot; and &quot;Them&quot; scene playing out throughout the world. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about the &#8220;Us&#8221; and &#8220;Them&#8221; scene playing out throughout the world. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest... I&#039;m a bit tired of people assuming I&#039;m either white or black... when I am neither. Not that I would mind if I really was either black or white but I&#039;m just not that&#039;s all. It&#039;s like when *that blogger* jumped to the topic of Obama&#039;s dad when I was talking about Asian dolls! Where did Obama&#039;s dad come from LOL this is because she assumed that I am black (just so happens I&#039;m not)... she is the one pulling out the race card not me, even though she pulled out the wrong one!

This blogger has used the Asians &quot;prefer to look lighter and use lightening creams&quot; argument. Oh hey, so have African people! What does that say if people desire to use lightening creams? Isn&#039;t there something seriously wrong there? I used to joke that older Asian women are like goths - white made up faces with brown necks and black lined eyes. I too prefer the goth look but I&#039;m not going to hide my skin just because it turns a shade of obvious brown in summer! It&#039;s how I was born and at least I still use sunscreen!

America&#039;s social racial relations are a bit different to the rest of the world but then it&#039;s actually not that different as well. Other parts of the world the division might be perceived nationality/foreign-ness or class (a really big example is the caste system in India, which is illegal but definitely still in existence) but at the end of the day it is the same, it is the desire to make certain groups &quot;other&quot; to feel better about oneself without actually doing any work to deserve this self entitlement. People may argue that racism and classism are different but for me they are intertwined and many other times they run so closely parallel that they are almost the same.

To me, I find it most depressing when other people of colour are in denial of the existence of racism and the uneven structure of power in established institutions of authority. It&#039;s like &quot;ass kissing the enemy&quot;.

OMG... and health care over in the US! It is funny because most Americans I&#039;ve met always compliment the healthcare system of Australia (which is far from perfect still...) but then they go protest against it in the US? I find that... very odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest&#8230; I&#8217;m a bit tired of people assuming I&#8217;m either white or black&#8230; when I am neither. Not that I would mind if I really was either black or white but I&#8217;m just not that&#8217;s all. It&#8217;s like when *that blogger* jumped to the topic of Obama&#8217;s dad when I was talking about Asian dolls! Where did Obama&#8217;s dad come from LOL this is because she assumed that I am black (just so happens I&#8217;m not)&#8230; she is the one pulling out the race card not me, even though she pulled out the wrong one!</p>
<p>This blogger has used the Asians &#8220;prefer to look lighter and use lightening creams&#8221; argument. Oh hey, so have African people! What does that say if people desire to use lightening creams? Isn&#8217;t there something seriously wrong there? I used to joke that older Asian women are like goths &#8211; white made up faces with brown necks and black lined eyes. I too prefer the goth look but I&#8217;m not going to hide my skin just because it turns a shade of obvious brown in summer! It&#8217;s how I was born and at least I still use sunscreen!</p>
<p>America&#8217;s social racial relations are a bit different to the rest of the world but then it&#8217;s actually not that different as well. Other parts of the world the division might be perceived nationality/foreign-ness or class (a really big example is the caste system in India, which is illegal but definitely still in existence) but at the end of the day it is the same, it is the desire to make certain groups &#8220;other&#8221; to feel better about oneself without actually doing any work to deserve this self entitlement. People may argue that racism and classism are different but for me they are intertwined and many other times they run so closely parallel that they are almost the same.</p>
<p>To me, I find it most depressing when other people of colour are in denial of the existence of racism and the uneven structure of power in established institutions of authority. It&#8217;s like &#8220;ass kissing the enemy&#8221;.</p>
<p>OMG&#8230; and health care over in the US! It is funny because most Americans I&#8217;ve met always compliment the healthcare system of Australia (which is far from perfect still&#8230;) but then they go protest against it in the US? I find that&#8230; very odd.</p>
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		<title>By: D7ana</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>D7ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much to respond to here, Therese! ;D

For this reply, I want to address the &quot;Asian in a Black and White World&quot; title. Just my opinion, but I think the U.S. and other Western countries are strongly dualistic. Good-evil, right-wrong, Democrat-Republican, etc. Shades of gray in morality exist, but they aren&#039;t usually addressed - or not as frequently as the extremes. A Green Party and an Independent Party exist politically, but they don&#039;t get the same coverage as the big two, Democrat and Republican. 

In race matters in the U.S., the basic duality has been White-Black for so many years, the existence of &quot;Others&quot; gets sidelined. Acknowledging Asian or Native American or Hispanic distracts the opposing forces scenario. You can also have White-Asian duality OR Asian-Black duality, but to have three or more groups interacting at the same time ... chaos.

What&#039;s interesting now is that the Black-White dynamic is - not dissolving, but interrupted? by the growing Brown (Hispanic) population. Either Hispanics outnumber or they are soon to outnumber Blacks as the largest minority group in the U.S. Repercussions of this shift can be seen in the increasing White-Hispanic alliances. For doll examples ... Mattel produced the High School Musical couple, White Troy and Hispanic Gabriella, in doll form; Mattel pairs Barbie with Teresa now in doll sets; and tellingly MGA pairs White Avery with Hispanic Sophina in their &quot;friend set.&quot; MGA&#039;s Black Sasha is not included in any corresponding &quot;friend set.&quot;

Just some thoughts on American racial interactions. My attempt to shed some light? response?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much to respond to here, Therese! ;D</p>
<p>For this reply, I want to address the &#8220;Asian in a Black and White World&#8221; title. Just my opinion, but I think the U.S. and other Western countries are strongly dualistic. Good-evil, right-wrong, Democrat-Republican, etc. Shades of gray in morality exist, but they aren&#8217;t usually addressed &#8211; or not as frequently as the extremes. A Green Party and an Independent Party exist politically, but they don&#8217;t get the same coverage as the big two, Democrat and Republican. </p>
<p>In race matters in the U.S., the basic duality has been White-Black for so many years, the existence of &#8220;Others&#8221; gets sidelined. Acknowledging Asian or Native American or Hispanic distracts the opposing forces scenario. You can also have White-Asian duality OR Asian-Black duality, but to have three or more groups interacting at the same time &#8230; chaos.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting now is that the Black-White dynamic is &#8211; not dissolving, but interrupted? by the growing Brown (Hispanic) population. Either Hispanics outnumber or they are soon to outnumber Blacks as the largest minority group in the U.S. Repercussions of this shift can be seen in the increasing White-Hispanic alliances. For doll examples &#8230; Mattel produced the High School Musical couple, White Troy and Hispanic Gabriella, in doll form; Mattel pairs Barbie with Teresa now in doll sets; and tellingly MGA pairs White Avery with Hispanic Sophina in their &#8220;friend set.&#8221; MGA&#8217;s Black Sasha is not included in any corresponding &#8220;friend set.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just some thoughts on American racial interactions. My attempt to shed some light? response?</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I do :) I&#039;ll just have to check your comment details because you have to input your email addy when you comment... or do you mean you&#039;ve sent me something? Nothing from you in my gmail inbox...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I do <img src='http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ll just have to check your comment details because you have to input your email addy when you comment&#8230; or do you mean you&#8217;ve sent me something? Nothing from you in my gmail inbox&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ebony, Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Ebony, Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therese Do you have my email?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therese Do you have my email?</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
		<link>http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/2009/asian-in-a-black-and-white-world-rant001/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... *sigh* I know... thanks Nicole :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; *sigh* I know&#8230; thanks Nicole <img src='http://www.dollsofcolor.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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